President Donald Trump prompted a firestorm of commentary and speculation after he stormed out of a major interview, but as one certified psychologist argued, his body language also exposed things about his agitated mental state.
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On Sunday, NBC News’s Meet the Press aired an interview with Trump conducted by Kristin Welker, in which, among other things, she pressed him about the lack of evidence for his longstanding claims that elections in the U.S. are rigged against Republicans. Trump, after growing increasingly frustrated over the tough questions, cut off the interview early, saying that Welker was either “crooked” or “stupid” before storming out.
Much has already been speculated based on this blow-up from Trump, including from Dr. John Paul Garrison, a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist, who maintains a popular YouTube account, “Dr. G Explains,” where he gives forensic breakdowns and body language analyses for over 700,000 subscribers. While he typically focuses on true crime stories, he also delves into politics, and recently released a video breaking down Trump’s body language during his interview with Welker.
At the start of the interview, Garrison noted that “most” of Trump’s visible behaviors were “pretty standard” and in line with his typical demeanor. He did note one brief movement of Trump’s mouth that could potentially indicate a change in the president’s motor control, but said that not much could be made of it for now. What he did put particular emphasis on, however, was the sound of rain during the interview, as it was being conducted in a Wisconsin barn during a period of extended downpours.
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Garrison argued that as the noise from the rain picked up and became more intense, Trump had a harder time focusing and concentrating on the questions from Welker. While stressing that nothing could be said for sure, he argued that Trump having a greater difficulty dealing with background noise could be a sign that he suffered a neurological episode at some point.
From that point, Garrison noted numerous signs that Trump was growing more and more agitated, including him furrowing his brow, bearing his teeth and putting extra emphasis on certain words, eventually escalating to the point of “real anger” and “real fury.” While he concluded that it was typical for Trump to be testy with the press, Garrison argued that he showed an “unusual” level of anger during the interview, and suggested that he might having “a harder time than he used to” dealing with things like the background noise from the rain.
Another medical expert and content creator, speech and language pathologist “Hilary M.A. CCC-SLP,” also argued that the weather might have been having an outsized effect on Trump’s mood, suggesting in a recent video that he was exhibiting symptoms common in dementia patients, who struggle to keep track of the time of day during periods of extended gloomy weather.
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